Boat Cabin Design

I would suggest that you contact World Cat directly. They will be glad to help you and you can be sure that you will receive an accurate response to your question.

Here's a link to contact them.

http://www.worldcat.com/contact.php

2009-11-13 00:12:06 by jamal

Modern in the real sense, the 25Ce typifies Aquador's unfailing sense of design and precise thinking in terms of layout, space utilisation and ...

I have a 19.5' boat with a cuddy cabin that I would like to air condition when we 'camp' overnight in the boat. I would prefer a unit that runs on Direct Current (DC), but I can use an inverter to run an A/C model if need-be.

The problem that I have been having is that all of the models I have found so far are WAY to big for my small space application we are talking about. The total volume of the cuddy cabin is only about 144 cubic feet (4.07 cubic meters), so something in the 500-1,000 BTU range would be more than sufficient. Most of the marine air units that I'm finding are 5-8,000 BTUs and are designed for a boat with a full cabin. I do not not need a heater function on the unit, but if it has one, its not a deal breaker.

Other specs... there is an overhead 12" x 12" square hatch (with rounded corners) on the ceiling of the cuddy, and a vertical bi-fold door approximately 2' wide by 3' tall. Ideally a unit would fit in one of those, but I'm willing to construct some ductwork or baffles if need be. I can do any wiring needed, and can add extra batteries if need be. I'm even willing to some light modification on the unit if it is otherwise acceptable.

So, does anyone know where I can get such an air conditioning unit? I have been searching online for nearly a month and have not found anything that comes close to what I'm looking for. With all of the cuddy cabin's out there I'm astonished that I'm the only who seems to want an A/C on board.
I'm actually going to have to respectfully disagree with you about it being impossible. In the last 24 hours I posted this question in another place and several people have pointed me towards several 250W 1000BTU units a 250W unit should run for at least 6 hours continuously on the 160Amp gel-cell we use for house power. That's more than ample to cool the cuddy overnight for sleeping. before charging the battery back up with the motor. I've recently found some DC solutions designed by people wanting to run solar-only. I'll post what I've personally found after the question expires.

You are certainly not the only one that wants A/C on board.

The problem is not so much the A/C unit, but the electricity requirement to run it. And, in a vessel under about 26' it becomes an issue of space, weight, and economics, as well as electrical demands - and even for a small cuddy cabin, it is a quite different and more complex issue then (say) the air-conditioning for your car.

For example: The problem with spending "cool & comfortable" tropical weather nights in your boat anchored out with no shore power... is of course, having enough electricity to run the A/C unit.

My vessel has 2 banks of 6 x 12v batteries, plus to 2 "house" batteries for a total of 14 batteries (which weigh over 2,200 lbs. (162 lbs ea). In addition I have a roof-top 10' x 20' array of solar panels and a 6 kw generator for back up. My 2 banks of 6 batteries are wired in a series to produce 144 VDC power source which is converted to 110ac. Anchored out at night running the A/C, my generator will kick on every 4 hours and run for about an hour.

Now granted, I live full-time and cruise aboard my boat. And while you can do with a smaller A/C unit, you still need to produce and store the same amount of electricity - which means, either your generator is running all the time your A/C unit is running (which is not good for either fuel or noise) or you need the space and weight capacity for a ton (literally) of batteries.

This is why so many vessels under 40 feet can only operate their A/C with shore power or while their generator (if they have one) is running. And why you are having such an impossible time of finding a suitable A/C unit for your vessel.

So for overnight camping on your boat with air-conditioning, you will need a generator as well as the A/C unit. Your 20' cuddy will not have the capacity to carry 12 x 12v deep cell marine batteries. And the fact is, there just is no economical way to do this on a recreational weekend use vessel, and that's why these small boat manufacturers don't do it.

Good luck,
John

2010-07-25 22:36:05 by Brian G

Price: $39.95

I'm designing a sailing boat (my usual domain are cars so i'm not great with dimensions) and to scale it's 120' long. It has a saloon, two cabins and a galley plus quite a bit of deck space... is this too long or do you think I can get away with it?
I don't have any intention in building this thing, purely in ALIAS... it's a university project.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/matthewdbpr ice/5175571904/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/matthewdbpr ice/5175572506/

It all depends on what you plan to do with it. If you plan to build it, or have hopes of selling the plans to someone that wants to build it. . . I build all my own boats, and while I have certainly never built one that big (48 feet was my largest) I can tell you for certain, you are talking of a $3.5 to $4.0 million dollar sailboat.

That means you are looking at less then 1/10 of 1% of the total boat buying market. In that market, they don't buy pre-designed vessels, they have someone DESIGN them to their own specs.

2010-11-13 07:11:08 by Speedbird

Price: $39.95

My question is, if I wanted to build a boat out of marine plywood, how much would it cost?

Specs:
22'
Cabin
at least 10 foot open back
(a basic saltwater fishing boat design)(http://www.cedarkeybarhopper.com/boats.h tm second boat down)

Now without an engine, trailer, or any electronics, how much do you think it will cost? How long will it take to build?

Im looking for a price for lumber, paint, sealer, cleats, windows, bars, and a door. In NY


Im building this with my uncle who has built a number of boats in his day and is an excellent craftsman. just hasnt built a boat since the 80s
if 5k is all it is for lumber, i figure i can get a 30 hp mercury for a few hundred(300-600)(used of course), radios are cheap (maybe 125), and all i need is navigation and lights, figure another 1000.

So does 7,300 sound about right for a boat like that completely finished and fully equipped?
As for the motors, i know a guy who can get me something nice for a couple hundred(he rebuilds them or i can do it myself and go to a junk yard) i was just considering weight, and joey, perhaps 30 is too small, so im thinking closer to 50 or 65...

as for all the other things like flares and life jackets and all that stuff, my uncle has some of that laying around...and also, once again, junk yard.

The only thing that i think will cost the most money is the electronics. The interior can be expensive(like a small cushionbed deal)

junk yard is a the place to go i think considering all along the south shore of long island, there are plenty of junk yards.

Yea, all the used boats i find are too small or beat to hell...and by that i mean they need everythin from interior to electronics to exterior. I looked and could find anything half way descent and big enough online for under 18,000.

id love to build one but i probably should check the paper too

Hiya John,

$7,300. might be close if you watch your pennies. I love boats and have owned them for 40 years now, and a 30 hp. Merc sounds like you're under powering your boat, (not to mention your ballpark figure of $300-600 being low).

Don't forget to add in flares, horn, life jackets, cushions, rod holders, anchor, chain and line, and for something that size and weight....an 12 gallon fuel tank, at least. I would also strongly suggest installing a water-separating fuel filter too.

John for $7,300 have you looked at the used boats for sale in your area? With the economy the way it is...people are getting rid of boats and you ought to pick up a honey of a used boat for that price.

Whatever you decide...good luck. Building your own boat is something you'll remember for the rest of your life. Remember to take a Coast Guard boating course.

Good luck!

2009-04-19 17:53:43 by John H

I am trying to hook up rope lights in my boat. I took out the old lights in the cutty cabin and have access to the original 2 power wires. Can I run the new rope lights (designed for plug-in 110volts) to these wires after taking off the plug which originally came attached to the rope lights or do I need an inverter.

I use 12 volt L.E.D. rope lamps for the ambiance, I use a variable slide resistor switch to control brightness. I have replace all of my energy draining lamps with L.E.D. Even my mast head lights.

2010-09-16 20:21:01 by Dave